tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7337050523047172372.post2643032832450842897..comments2023-10-31T10:34:11.250-06:00Comments on Atheist Self: Prayer as a WeaponDavid W.http://www.blogger.com/profile/01382366849659434427noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7337050523047172372.post-46574080939245729642010-03-21T20:05:16.244-06:002010-03-21T20:05:16.244-06:00Hello,
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I think that there's at least a twinge of wanting to do God's work (for whatever reason) but then the mob mentality comes into play and it turns into total harassment.Travishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10320287454264922889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7337050523047172372.post-22856133546787797422007-06-19T13:51:00.000-06:002007-06-19T13:51:00.000-06:00I think you may be giving that thought process too...<B>I think you may be giving that thought process too much credit. I think they do it because they truly believe they're doing God's work.</B><BR/><BR/>I think the big difference between prayer circles and honestly just trying to do God's work is the group mentality involved. A child can confront another child about God on a one-to-one basis, and it's a balanced experience. When you have to group together, and capture the target in your circle, then you're seeing an experience not unlike a hunter/prey relationship.<BR/><BR/>This was one of the main themes I got from "Lord of the Flies." An outsider can be tolerated on a one-to-one basis, but when you are grouped together against them, the <I>group</I> takes an <I>anima</I> of its own, and becomes a cruel and driving force, pushing the actions of the group far beyond what any single person would do.David W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01382366849659434427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7337050523047172372.post-74349206535471638892007-06-19T13:16:00.000-06:002007-06-19T13:16:00.000-06:00Katie: "were these kids being taught that "good" a...Katie: <B>"were these kids being taught that "good" and "nice" are exclusively Christian traits?"</B><BR/>Yes. Remember the the first post from Atheist in a Minivan we read about the oldest possum writing that essay? Her teacher told her something to the effect of "you aren't atheist. You show a lot of generosity, which is a Christian moral."<BR/><BR/>So... yes! For the most part, believers think nonbelievers are immoral heathens. And they apparently don't grow out of it!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7337050523047172372.post-18785400053106998652007-06-19T13:13:00.000-06:002007-06-19T13:13:00.000-06:00I think this is why it is particularly satisfying ...<B>I think this is why it is particularly satisfying for theists to bash non-theists. There is no conflicting prayer. It feels like a victory by default to them -- a sure win.</B><BR/><BR/>I think you may be giving that thought process too much credit. I think they do it because they truly believe they're doing God's work. If God appeared before me and said that they are right, then I would gladly choose Hell over worshiping such a tyrant.<BR/><BR/>I saw an episode of 3rd Rock from the Sun years ago. Tommy was on the basketball team, and his team was praying before the game. He noticed that the other team was praying and said something to the effect of "Why are we praying if they're praying? Is our god more powerful than their god?"<BR/><BR/>You know what has always gotten to me? People where we grew up thanking God for a "good hunt." Yes, because you prayed, God gave you the ability to kill more deer. Are people really so self-centered to think that God would care about their hunting trip enough to intervene?<BR/><BR/>I'll step away before this turns into a blog post :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7337050523047172372.post-36426328079451077202007-06-19T13:10:00.000-06:002007-06-19T13:10:00.000-06:00Of course it's just bullying! Let's face it--kids ...Of course it's just bullying! Let's face it--kids can be mean. And if kids grow up in a home where Christians are good and everyone else is bad and going to hell, it's logical that religion would become a way to bully other kids. I'm sure these kids are also told again and again that people who aren't Christian need to be saved. Do these kids really understand what they're saying? I <I>highly</I> doubt it. They're just repeating what they hear at home and at church and exploiting it the same way kids will exploit any difference. It's terrible, it sucks, but it's not really surprising.<BR/>What <I>does</I> surprise me is that I never experienced it. I was asked if I had been saved, but I didn't even know what that meant until I was in middle school! I always just stared at whoever asked and they usually answered the question for me--"Oh, you're nice, you must be saved!" In retrospect, that's a really shitty answer and a poor reflection on the understanding of morals and religion--were these kids being taught that "good" and "nice" are exclusively Christian traits?<BR/>Oof...I think this might be running a little long for a comment. Please check out my new blog, though!Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14405673446714826228noreply@blogger.com